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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/19/2018 6:32 PM
Especially now that I'm dabbling in the metaphysical and I have stuff like external beings manifesting in my neighborhood that want to come mess with my mindscapes if I don't maintain barriers
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Albino Elephant 6/19/2018 9:58 PM
@Jas concentrate on how sleepiness feels and manifest that in your mind. It is a simple pushing your mind into that feeling or pushing that feeling into your mind.
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I guess I don't know exactly what that means. Insomnia is a problem that we can only naturally solve with extreme sleep deprivation, and that always seems to result in conscious sleep paralysis
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Albino Elephant 6/19/2018 10:00 PM
If you can remember how being tired feels then you can drive your mind to be more tired than you are at the moment
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Hmm. I don't know if "tired" is something that I associate with slipping into unconsciousness.
10:02 PM
I have been extremely tired every time I found myself going out of the body.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/19/2018 10:03 PM
In my case, "tired" is a signal from the body and also just a trend of the level of processing I'm capable of starting to decline
10:03 PM
Not really something easy to just create from the user end
10:04 PM
My brain just keeps trying to start new trains of thought, and purging them too actively triggers meditation rather than sleep
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Sometimes I am not tired, and still find my consciousness lapsing into lost time too. Somehow I need to figure out how to generate a feeling of unconsciousness. Consciously. Or I can figure out how people control their forays into out of body experiences. I don't want to start practicing it intentionally until I stop doing it unintentionally.
10:07 PM
There's a painful feeling when you are in freefall and the buzzing hypnagogic hallucination gets so loud. It's worse to just force relaxation through these senses and allow that sort of sensation to be perceived.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/19/2018 10:08 PM
Oh dear, I don't know that I've had that happen
10:08 PM
I was wondering yesterday if trying to pull away from the body controls as if for a switch might help with inducing sleep, but I'm not sure how reliable that would be (edited)
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Oh it isn't real pain, but I perceive pain and discomfort as mostly the same.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/19/2018 10:11 PM
Interesting
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It can help in the sense of focus if you do that meditation where you're as still and relaxed as possible (like you're letting go of all control) but I haven't yet managed to convert that to anything like sleeping faster.
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Albino Elephant 6/20/2018 3:10 PM
maps.google.com
3:11 PM
🤦
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/20/2018 5:20 PM
...do what now?
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Chaos Progression of Thought-forms Psi Ball -> Servitor -> Golem/Familiar -> Tulpa -> Egregore -> godform Plenty of resources on all...
10:06 PM
So sex slave tulpa is basically a golem? Good to know
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/23/2018 10:06 PM
See, I'd use the term golem to refer to an animated object myself
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"Servitulpa: Golem Creation Guide" aka bullshit yourself and make a tulpa-servitor hybrid which'll probably become a servitor anyways in 5 days flat
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Woah, why link that.
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also, the OP got heavily downvoted
10:48 PM
...for a reason
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can someone force OP to read this text with these regex replace settings?
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Albino Elephant 6/23/2018 11:57 PM
That...
11:58 PM
Actually that isn't the worst thing, but just a very misunderstood concept
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Probably. Except the person who wrote it is in the misunderstanding group.
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I don't get it... so you're using Regex to lazily do a simple word replacement
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regex is faster than manual string replace.
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didn't even [Tt]ulpae{1}
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gotta replace it with humanae
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 9:36 AM
Say, I understand why all of you react so negatively to the golem post... But: I do think he raises some rather valid points. If you scroll a bit trough the comments, the OP makes some pretty interesting and valid points. For example, most of not all of the users here think that tulpas are sentient, period. OP on the other hand puts his morality on hold and objectively analyses the situation. Yes, the things he says might seem cruel to you, but I say he raises good questions and maybe wakes up those blind believers. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, who knows? Have some of you had the internal debate whether a tulpa is really sentient or not and what were your arguments? (edited)
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 9:49 AM
@Deleted User you can't accurately differentiate between a real sentient being and a p-zombie, so I think we should treat all beings as sentient until proven p-zombie (edited)
9:50 AM
(#solipsism)
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AJ is sentient, she has feelings, and is seperate from me and can... feel I would go into how I knows she can feel but there are no nsfw channels. At the absolute LEAST she is incredibly good at emulating these feelings.
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I guess in the end it's a belief thing. If you want the tulpa to become sentient and independent, it will, otherwise it won't.
10:34 AM
I hate how everything in the world dissipates if you look close enough. In the end, it'll make no difference how I treat the tulpa, just the experience I'll get may vary.
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if I look close at AJ the base experience doesn't change.
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I stare into the sun.
11:25 AM
It outlasts me.
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interesting
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 12:58 PM
Not everything dissipates upon further inspection
12:58 PM
Some things simply get more terrifying
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Uh elaborate on that
1:01 PM
Tbh now that I think about it most perceptions stay the same
1:01 PM
Stupid brain is hardwired to not see what we want to see
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 1:12 PM
I meant that in a broader sense. It's unbelievably frustrating to search for a definite truth, because there is none. Yet again, most people seem to think there is one... (edited)
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 1:18 PM
Well... if some of the principles of magic can be used in the ways I think they can be, anything that sets off my "powerful being" radar is to be avoided at all costs (edited)
1:18 PM
I'd rather not deal with bona fide eldrich-tier beings
1:19 PM
Whereas before it was just "oh hey, I sense a being at that church maybe I should go say hi" (edited)
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@Ruethus the Silver Sorceror you believe in magic? The dark arts?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 1:21 PM
I actively practice it, so yeah
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But not just the dark arts
1:21 PM
Also the white and red arts
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Well what if I told you... There was a quarter in your ear? pulls quarter from your ear
1:22 PM
Define magic
1:22 PM
I've never heard of it
1:22 PM
The real deal at least
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 1:22 PM
Techniques that manipulate the universe in ways normally unavailable to most people
1:22 PM
Typically fuelled by energy from your body
1:23 PM
I'm working on reaching a point where I can affect more than just things that can be explained away with the placebo effect
1:23 PM
Gotta go for now, but I can summarize what I've done/seen so far later
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I'd love to be able to actively change my vision
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 1:59 PM
I'd be interested too! If you find some time, would you care to throw some names (people, books, etc) at us for some advanced research? Occultism is quite fascinating^^
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:04 PM
The best source I can point to for those planning to start the adventure is Liber Null
5:04 PM
Lemme grab the link real quick
5:06 PM
This book will get you started taking meditation to the next level, which is useful for creating mindscapes and channelling processing-intensive tasks when the need arises
5:06 PM
The Mind Control and Sigils parts I use, and make sure to take note of the barriers section
5:07 PM
The rest of the book... I don't really use
5:08 PM
Pages 14-22 are the specific range
5:10 PM
People who study tulpamancy will likely know about image concentration, but the other two types the book mentions are useful as well
5:12 PM
Anyways, with respect to the "magic" stuff, there tend to be three main components to a "spell": knowledge of what needs to happen in order for the desired effect to come about and a method by which to enact such a thing, energy to fuel the change, and faith that magic works (that last one is trickier than you'd think)
5:14 PM
An example of a low-level spell would be a barrier spell. I project via image concentration the shape of the barrier into my vision as if it were actually in the real world around me, making sure to describe all the edges and faces involved in the shape, as well as its volume, then start feeding energy into the shape, and that's the spell
5:15 PM
I mentioned terrifying things? If my theories about magic's potential is correct, how do beings that can travel through time freely, warp space on a whim, or conjure storms of gamma radiation to assault you sound?
5:17 PM
I will say that venturing into this field comes with side effects
5:18 PM
Once you get your mind's eye working well, you can get... visitors... from time to time, and they're not always friendly to the contents of the mindscape or your mind
5:18 PM
Hence why barriers are important
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:23 PM
Alright, NOW I'm curious! First of all, thank you for taking the time to compose a useful and informative answer, I appreciate that! And second: Could you elaborate on the visitor part?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:24 PM
External beings
5:26 PM
So far, I've met a being that implied it was "one who guides the dead", so make of that what you will, a weird eldrich shark-looking thing, as well as some various other lesser beings that have shown up from time to time, ranging from weird golem-like things to a swarm of insects that showed up today while I was having to sit through church.
5:26 PM
The dead-guiding one and the shark showed up in my dreams, and the others invaded my mindscapes while conscious
5:27 PM
I call the first two external beings because they're foreign symbols to me and even in the dreams I was confused by their appearance (edited)
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:28 PM
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:28 PM
...
5:28 PM
That new nickname though (edited)
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:33 PM
@Ruethus the Silver Sorceror hey man, Angel changed my nickname, not me
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ask her about our unending love ❤
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:33 PM
We'll see how unending it really is (edited)
5:36 PM
Anyways, to summarize where I'm at with magic stuff, I'm currently working on being able to create auditory illusions so that I can integrate sounds into my mindscapes, as well as starting to look into learning something akin to the chakra system so I can get energy control and make casting more consistent than it currently is
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:52 PM
The soul guiding one is fairly old, if you ever want to do some research I assume it could be a Psychopomp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopomp
Psychopomps (from the Greek word ψυχοπομπός, psuchopompos, literally meaning the "guide of souls") are creatures, spirits, angels, or deities in many religions whose responsibility is to escort newly deceased souls from Earth to the afterlife. Their role is not to j...
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:52 PM
Oh, I know the term
5:52 PM
And my research tells me it was likely a Shinto-y one
5:53 PM
Although who knows
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:53 PM
Nobody, that's what makes it interesting
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:53 PM
Full description is a woman in a black dress with white eyes
5:54 PM
Not solid white, but with white irises and a very faint pupil
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